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    Lightbulb LN Honing Guide & Ray Iles mortise chisel compatibility

    Apologies if this has been asked previously, does the Lie-Nielsen honing guide and any of its jaws accommodate Ray Iles mortise chisels? Thank you in advance.

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    Unlikely, free hand sharpening would be quite appropriate.

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    The mortise chisel jaw set I own for my L-N guide is for square sided mortise chisels - like the L-N mortise chisels. If your mortise chisel has a vaguely trapezoidal cross section, the jaw set I own will only grip the chisel on the widest line, the widest width.

    I only have the one data point.

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    I just checked (I have both).

    no they will not.
    the chisels taper towards the point and they taper as a trapezoid. this means that there is only one point of contact on each side of the guide. I can easily move the chisel in it.

    try the veritas guide with the mortise chisel setting, its what I use

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    I was taught to sharpen pig stickers with a curve on the top face. The only way to do that is by hand!
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    I like to add the curve after freehand but the edge is guide sharpened. Either way that wasn't the OP's question

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    The block of wood is the template to guide you to know when the edge is 35 degrees ...



    This is the time I use the round bevel method espoused by Paul Sellers ...





    My Japanese mortice chisels receive a flat 35 degree bevel, again honed by hand.


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    Thank you very much for the responses.

    regarding the "curve" or "round" bevel, I assume this is the same as a "convex" bevel? I use convex bevels on my knives as I understand it to provide the cutting edge with a bit more material to strengthen the edge.

    Derek, thanks for those images and the idea to make a wooden block for the target sharpening angle, I like that!

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    No, in this case I believe that Derek and others mean rounding off the non cutting "top" of the primary bevel to make it easier to use for leveraging waste (marked with a red arrow in the picture)
    Screenshot 2022-03-30 101356.jpg

    that rounding does not require a guide and while precision is always important in general, it is less important on the curve that the cutting edge.

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    Assaf, the rounding does refer to the secondary bevel.

    Here again ...



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    I stand corrected

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    I’m not actually sure of this but I believe the rounded bevel tends to break the chip off a little better. This helps in not getting the chisel wedged in with a flat bevel.
    Jim

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    My experience exactly! Drives in deeper.
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