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    Township building codes.

    Any one know what the reason why a metal gazebo needs to be at least ten feet from the house? Per township ordnance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Elett View Post
    Any one know what the reason why a metal gazebo needs to be at least ten feet from the house? Per township ordnance
    Did you ask the ordnance enforcement people? Whenever I have wanted to do something that must be to code, they have always provided clear, concise reasoning and in fact, in two cases, gave me some suggested alternates that made my renovations meet code and saved time and money!
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    The person at the office said she doesn't know, just ordnance rule. I am going to dig into it further, she says I can apply for a variant for 300.00.

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    Call back and ask to speak to an enforcement official/inspector.

    I actually had one come out to do a "prebuild inspection" where he made a suggestion that made for an easy fix for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Elett View Post
    The person at the office said she doesn't know, just ordnance rule. I am going to dig into it further, she says I can apply for a variant for 300.00.
    Looking further on the net one reason is for fire safety, maby I will be able to get a variant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Elett View Post
    Looking further on the net one reason is for fire safety, maby I will be able to get a variant.
    Looks like a general code rule, just one of those things that the commission thinks is necessary Welcome to home owner ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Elett View Post
    The person at the office said she doesn't know, just ordnance rule. I am going to dig into it further, she says I can apply for a variant for 300.00.
    Maybe the reason is for revenue?

    It could also be a factor if there is regular lightning strikes in your area. A metal gazebo is likely to get hit by lightning.

    Hopefully an enforcement officer can give you a valid reason.

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    I have had that rule explained as being for fire spread and for fire fighter access around structures. An all metal building might qualify for a variance. Obtaining a variance is a big deal in our town requiring a newspaper ad, notifying the neighbors, and a public hearing. I once created a breezeway to attach an auxiliary structure that was too close to a house. Attaching with a breezeway made it all "one structure" therefore OK. Interestingly both times I have gone through the ordeal of obtaining a variance the projects were unusual placements for metal pre-fab buildings. Both projects were approved.

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    Building codes and zoning requirements are ALL local. Your local zoning officer should be able to answer the question, even if office staff cannot. If you go to your jurisdiction's website, you should be able to find the contact information for the actual zoning officer and be able to send an email about the specific question about why. That will get you an explanation. But unless you want to do a big dance required for a variance...which I doubt you would get for something like this...you'll have to follow the requirement if you build the structure.
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    Not wanting to get involved with the Code Folks hurts you more than them. Get a good site drawing showing all buildings, utility service locations. Add your proposed structure and make an appointment with a code officer. Yes, they can be the hardest of axxes but I’ve found them to be helpful face to face and actually appreciative that you take the time to ask. I’m of the opinion that it can make your site inspections on work done easier having them believing that you care to do it correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Frederick View Post
    Not wanting to get involved with the Code Folks hurts you more than them. Get a good site drawing showing all buildings, utility service locations. Add your proposed structure and make an appointment with a code officer. Yes, they can be the hardest of axxes but I’ve found them to be helpful face to face and actually appreciative that you take the time to ask. I’m of the opinion that it can make your site inspections on work done easier having them believing that you care to do it correctly.
    This is good advice and consistent with my own experience. I made it a point to get to know the local code officer and his second in command right from the first project here after we moved in. That was very helpful, especially when I got to the "big kahuna"...my new shop building. They not only got to clarify requirements and process, but also got to understand that I wanted to do things consistent with both code and local requirements. (And now that I chair the local planning commission and have other interactions with them, direct and indirect, they understand where any concerns I express come from)
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    Holy Smokes, Jim! No salt on your tail How long have you been in town and you are heading the PC. I admire and respect your initiative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Frederick View Post
    Holy Smokes, Jim! No salt on your tail How long have you been in town and you are heading the PC. I admire and respect your initiative.
    Three years this past Tuesday was our "house-a-versary". I got "drafted" for the commission by a neighbor who is an elected council member a year ago. In January, I got stuck with "the job". Honestly, it's not difficult other than having to wrangle enough of the other volunteer members to have a quorum each month...you would think that wouldn't be hard since it's the same flippin' day and time every month. Sheesh! All good people, although there is one dude we could all do without. "That guy", as it were. Can't get rid of him...can't get him to quit. LOL
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    Make him the ,Head Of Garbage and Refuse Department, “ Make him an offer he can’t refuse”
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    I also built a "detached" screened dining room on a deck. The fact that it sat on a deck that was attached to the house allowed it to be built close to the house.

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