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I haven't seen one of the alleged saws in person, but I have seen many articles about them in the various woodworking magazines. It sounds like Dale may talking apples while the rest of you are talking oranges. Maybe Dale could take a picture of the model he's looking at and post it for us?
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The one he has is an older one, i think he mentioned it was like 6 years old. The orion built saw is only about a year or two old.Originally Posted by Dennis McDonaugh
This is the one i bought for $535:
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The first shot shows the trunnion. If you were to reach in & feel around you would find out that you could put your finger between the bottom of the table top & on top of the head of the bolt that goes down through the trunnion bolting it to the top of the cabinet.
Also you'll notice that the closest place where the trunnion could be bolted other than where trunnion is bolted to the cabinet would be where the old style contractors saw is bolted to the top right next to the boss where the blade carriage hangs & slides to tilt, you'll please notice there is no bolt there. The trunnion hangs free suspended from the cabinet.
Yes indeed the trunnion is mounted to the cabinet & not to the bottom of the table.
If the trunnion was bolted to the bottom of the table there would be no reason for the cast iron trunnion to run all the way over to the side of the cabinet & have a bolt going down through it & through the cabinet top flange.. You'll notice there is a bolt in front of the trunnion bolt & nut going up through the cabinet flange bolting the top to the cabinet.
NO THESE SAWS ARE NOT LIKE YOUR OLD C-MAN SAW.
Though the trunnions are not as heavy as a full blown cabinet saw they are quite a bit heavier than you old C-Man saw.
The second shot shows the saw & you'll notice it is not the full cabinet style model but the next step down BUT the mechanical parts are the same. My store didn't have the full cabinet model.
Last edited by Bart Leetch; 10-19-2005 at 12:50 PM.
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Bart, I know you really used Photoshop to make it look that way
By the way, I did't know Whidbey Island was big enough for their own Sears store !
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Last edited by Lee DeRaud; 10-19-2005 at 5:22 PM.
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[QUOTE=Bart Leetch]The first shot shows the trunnion. ...Yes indeed the trunnion is mounted to the cabinet & not to the bottom of the table...
NO THESE SAWS ARE NOT LIKE YOUR OLD C-MAN SAW.
Though the trunnions are not as heavy as a full blown cabinet saw they are quite a bit heavier than you old C-Man saw.
...snip. QUOTE] Bart - Thanks for taking the time to post a pic and put this to rest. The wider trunnions are at least part of the reason the saws are so heavy. (319#, 385#, 425# respectively). Now go treat yourself to a nice porterhouse at Applebee's!
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Glad we got some pics...I have seen one in person a t a friend's house so I knew they were NOTHING like the old Ryobi made saws.
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came across this picture on craftsman website..
cant argue with that...
I quit coming here a couple of years ago because of the tool bashing that was starting to take place. I haven't been here in almost two years and I see it wasn't long enough yet. Please guys and gals, share your love for woodworking not your poor judgement on bashing others tools. What a shame!
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Sure, but without all these all these dead horses to flog, where would we get our glue?
Boxers or briefs? Ginger or MaryAnn? Festool or EZSmart? Normite or Neander?
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Dan, you're a hard man to please.
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Mary Ann of course.Sure, but without all these all these dead horses to flog, where would we get our glue?
Boxers or briefs? Ginger or MaryAnn? Festool or EZSmart? Normite or Neander?
The great religious controversies of our time.
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Hands up --- Ginger.
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