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    Should I keep the Mortiser

    I recently purchased the Delta 14-651 mortiser from Amazon.com ($249 - $50 Mail-In Rebate + Free Shipping) and am debating whether or not to send it back. When it arrived, the cast iron top was chipped on the underside, which if not filed down, would gouge my workbench surface. I filed it down and that took care of that issue.

    Now, I'm still debating whether or not I really need it. I purchased it primarly for the deck furniture I will be building. With it being slightly damaged, Amazon offered to return it at their cost and refund me the purchase price.

    What are your thoughts? Should I keep it or return it? The damaged part is really a non-issue now. I'm just not sure if it's worth the $200 now that I have it in front of me.

    Thanks in advance.

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    I've had mine for several years and while it doesn't get used every day it really comes in handy when I need it.
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  3. I would keep it, but as my wife says, I never met a tool I didn't like.

    I bought a grinder for a project, thinking I'd never use it again in a million years. I end up using it about once a month, far more than I thought I ever would. Now I think I should have bought a better one!

    Having the mortiser may change the way you approach projects; we all tend to change things to fit our tools and capabilities.

    So unless you have something else more valuable to use that $200 on, I would keep it.

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    I bought that mortiser a few months back. I haven't had a project yet requiring it's use. I'm wondering the advantages of this tool - since buying it I see D. Marks using a plunge router to cut his mortises. Seems to go a lot quicker than a mortising machine. Am I missing something here???

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    I have the same mortiser and use it occassionally as a hobbyist. I bought it a few years ago to help build my son's bed. I will be using it again very soon to build a bed for my daughter. I think I'll always have a project here or there where I can use the mortiser.

    To save room, I built a rolling chassis (it's ugly, but level and stable) which will accept a pre-cut 3/4" slab of mdf/plywood on top and lock it in place. I cut 3 identical pieces of plywood and mounted the Delta mortiser to one, an osc. spindle sander to another, and a removeable router table (Craftsman.. which is very poorly built) to the third. The mortiser generally stays on it. The router stand and spindle sander are hidden under my chop-saw table.

    If it were me, for that price, I would keep it.

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    If you are considering sending it back, notify me first. Been looking for a good deal on one.

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    If the $$$ isn't an issue, Keep it.

    It's a nice mortiser, somewhat light duty, that will do quite a bit.
    It's not used everyday, but when you need it it's nice to have.
    The only reason I would get rid of mine would be to buy a floor standing unit.



    MIke Goetzke.
    The plunge router is very convenient,no doubts. Sometimes though the mortiser is faster. Add an XY vise to your 14-651 and you can move right along with it.
    It's a tradeoff. The amount of time saved with the router, versus the time required to make loose tenon stock, or modify the tenon to match the round mortise.
    It's always good to have a variety of options available to perform any given task in woodworking.

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    send it back. i just purchased the same one about three weeks ago. i thought it would be quicker than setting up a router. after i spend an hour honing the chisels and bits, the cuts i got were rougher than i imagined. everything works great i just expected smoother mortises. i initially had difficulty setting up the chisel to cut square to the work. more delays. if anyone wants mine... send me a pm.

    good luck,

    jud

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    I have a $200 biscuit joiner that I only use now and again. When I use it, it works perfectly. I'm saving for a jointer upgrade and considered letting it go to fatten my piggy bank for the jointer. In the end I kept it and there have been 3 times in 3 months that I loved having it.

    I guess it boils down to 'will you miss it when you need it and will you need it often enough to spend $200?' But, you knew that. Not much help but I understand the conflict.
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    I have the General equivalent mortiser. I can go months without using it, but then I'll use it for two or three weeks in a row.

    For Mission Style furniture (my fave) it is indespensible. My last mission desk had 51 spindles, so that was 102 mortises. Took less than two hours start to finish.

    Yes it is a highly specialized tool, but at the price you paid you'll wish you could have more "part-time" tools.
    Trees. Tools. Time.

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    Frank, you need to put that saying on a t-shirt.

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    Hello all,
    I know this is not the classified area but, I wanted to mention since you fellows are talking about mortisers that I have a Delta mortiser that I want to sell. I is like new and has been used only a few times. I am asking $150.00 or so for it. I also have a set of Fisch chisels that I would like to sell, they are one of the best mortise chisels youi can find. I used the 1/4 in. one once or twice. I would like to get $80.00 for them. They sell for $150.00 any where you can find them. I live in the Pittsburgh Pa. area. The reason I am selling is that I have a floor model mortiser also.

    Thank you
    Ben

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    Tim,
    I would keep it. I have the same mortiser that gets used occasionally and it does come in very handy though I wish I had a larger floor unit. Remember you'll always be able to sell it when the time comes to move up. You certainly got a good deal so spend a little money on a few good bits and conical sharpener and hone them well. I found the ones that came with the machine left unclean mortises though they did work ok when honed. Check out lee valley http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...240,53317&ap=1

    Cheers,
    Nick

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    Mortiser

    I have a cheap one from Harbor Freight. It's not a top of the line machine but it will do the job. I just used it for my grandson's rocking horse. I could have used my PC plunge router but then I would have had some chisel work which I was trying to avoid. I don't use it every day but when I do need it; it is a real timesaver.

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    Hi, Like Scott, I have the General International mortiser, and mostly make Arts and Crafts (Mission) furniture using white oak.

    The mortiser is invaluable for this sort of work, easy to set up, accurate, and most importantly quieter and cleaner than a router.

    I've replaced the original hollow chisels and bits with the one's from Lee Valley, they are superior to the original chisel/bit combination.

    regards, Rod.

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