Tail vice question

[Scott Velie]

Has anyone built a tail vice? I am finally going to start a project I have kept putting off for a year and build MY bench. I need advice on tail vice hardware. I have seen the lee valley kit, the atlas machinery kit. I am leaning towards the Deiter Shmid hardware. (German engineering).

http://www.fine-tools.com/G300650.htm

Ideas? Experiences?

I really want to have all my hardware on hand before finishing the plans.

Scott

[Dennis Hatchett]

Has anyone built a tail vice? I am finally going to start a project I have kept putting off for a year and build MY bench. I need advice on tail vice hardware. I have seen the lee valley kit, the atlas machinery kit. I am leaning towards the Deiter Shmid hardware. (German engineering).

http://www.fine-tools.com/G300650.htm

Ideas? Experiences?

I really want to have all my hardware on hand before finishing the plans.

Scott

Hi Scott,
I used the Lee Valley hardware and it is good and solid but it comes with absolutely no diagrams or anything related to building your wood components. I guess they assume you can figure it out yourself which you can but it adds quite a bit of time to the construction process.

I researched the diagrams in The Workbench Book and then took several hours to design my vise assembly. All in all it's what we do as woodworkers so I shouldn't whine about it, but it seemed a small thing for the manufacturer to throw in a diagram. But once it's built it works great. I'm not familiar with your choice but it looks great. You'll pay a little more but it looks like a good choice.

[John Goodridge]

The Lee Valley tail vise does not come with instructions but this page from Woodcrafts site has instructions for basically the same vise.

http://www2.woodcraft.com/pdf/77A41.pdf

[jonathan snyder]

That Deiter Schmit hardware looks like it is welded and similar to LN's tail vise. As I understand it you do not need to build a core around that tailvise, unlike LV's. More money but less work and I have been told less of a chance of a sagging tailvise. I have the LV hardware, but have not built the vise yet, I'm still working on the base. If I had to do it over I might save up for the LN hardware.

I called LV and asked about instructions for the tailvise as they are included with their bench plans. Customer Service sent me a PDF containing what look to be good instructions. You cant beat LV's customer service, and I have never gotten a product from them that I was unhappy with, so I'm sure the tailvise will work out well for me.

Jonathan

[rick fulton]

Scott,
The Dieter Schmid tail vise
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looks amazingly like the Lie-Nielsen tail vise,
L-tail_lg.jpg
which was one of the stand-out features of the LN workbench when reviewed by Fine Woodworking magazine.

Verses LV ?
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I plan to go with the LN vise when I find the time to update my bench.
rick

[Scott Velie]

They look so similar as to be almost indistinguishable. After price conversion and shipping LN is also less expensive.

I don't mind no instructions. Designing and drawing are one of the many enjoyable parts of woodworking for me.

Thanks all, I am going to order it today.

By the way: I am sure this is not the place to ask but how do you embed photos in your posts? I tried cutting and pasting but no go. The attachments are OK but sometimes (like previous) it looks better embedded.



Scott

[jonathan snyder]

Scott, here are instructions for posting pics http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=25115

or use an image hosting site such as photobucket

JOnathan