Why your photos show up sideways on SMC

[mark mcfarlane]

You should be able to fix the photos before posting. I've done this many times but didn't remember exactly what I did so I tried it again just now....

I think you missed the original point of my post. If you are a Mac OS X and iPhone user, regardless of how your phone is positioned (any of 4 possible orientations) the pic always looks correct on you Mac using any Apple software: Preview iPhoto, Photos, and Aperture).

So the only way to know if there is a problem is to upload the pic to SMC first, see which way it needs to be rotated, now rotate it on your Mac so the original image is now crooked on your Mac, then rename it and upload it again to SMC, deleting the original upload.

I hold my iPhone in any of the 4 possible orientations, depending on where I want the camera lens to be relative to how I am shooting the pic (for closeups this can matter). So for a landscape pic it might need either a +90 or -90 rotation, and I don't currently have an easy way of knowing which way to rotate it until I upload the pic to SMC.

I understand this is not an SMC problem, it is a well known problem with the vBulletin software.

If you stick to only using two orientations you could just remember, always rotate landscapes +/-90 degrees (I forget which one). That's probably what I'll do in the future.

[Jim Becker]

Mark, I guess I've not run into this because I process all photos in Lightroom prior to uploading anywhere, so that must be dealing with the issue for me, despite being 100% MacOS for upload and iOS for most photos. (My Nikon D750 doesn't get to the shop much...)

Good to know about the VB issue...and not surprising.

[mark mcfarlane]

Mark, I guess I've not run into this because I process all photos in Lightroom prior to uploading anywhere, so that must be dealing with the issue for me, despite being 100% MacOS for upload and iOS for most photos. (My Nikon D750 doesn't get to the shop much...)

Good to know about the VB issue...and not surprising.

It is reasonable that Lightroom rotates on import and removes the rotation metadata. For SMC pics, I just use Airdrop to send pictures to my Mac, then upload direct to SMC. They don't touch any software other than occasionally Preview where I recompress really large files.

[Jim Becker]

It is reasonable that Lightroom rotates on import and removes the rotation metadata. For SMC pics, I just use Airdrop to send pictures to my Mac, then upload direct to SMC. They don't touch any software other than occasionally Preview where I recompress really large files.

I'm too anal to send any photo directly to the Internet most of the time. I haz my needz to editz dem... LOL

[John K Jordan]

I'm too anal to send any photo directly to the Internet most of the time. I haz my needz to editz dem... LOL

Same here! I can't remember ever posting a photo without first loading it into PhotoShop for sizing and compressing. (One forum I visit has a firm 100k limit) And once it is loaded, I simply can't resist quickly adjusting the levels. Then I might as well straighten. Hmm... That background needs cropping...

JKJ

[Aaron Koehl]

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I should add, if you resize your photos to the proper size limits before uploading them, then vBulletin will leave them alone. Thus, you won't have any issues with rotation.

Same here! I can't remember ever posting a photo without first loading it into PhotoShop for sizing and compressing. (One forum I visit has a firm 100k limit) And once it is loaded, I simply can't resist quickly adjusting the levels. Then I might as well straighten. Hmm... That background needs cropping... JKJ

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[mark mcfarlane]

<p>
I should add, if you resize your photos to the proper size limits before uploading them, then vBulletin will leave them alone. Thus, you won't have any issues with rotation. </p>

Actually, I think Apple's Preview and Aperture applications all still leave the meta data 'rotate' field intact when a resizing picture, and they still show wrong in vBulletin. That's been my experience.

Also, SMC's vBulletin implementation seems to automatically resize (i.e. file size reduction) pictures when you upload them, again my experience when uploading <1MB files.

[Michael Schuch]

Same here! I can't remember ever posting a photo without first loading it into PhotoShop for sizing and compressing. (One forum I visit has a firm 100k limit) And once it is loaded, I simply can't resist quickly adjusting the levels. Then I might as well straighten. Hmm... That background needs cropping...

JKJ

If you are not a Photoshop user using Photoshop just to resize pictures is a bit of overkill.

If you are a Windows user I recommend Microsoft's own FREE Windows Power Toys for resizing pictures. It is MUCH quicker than using Photoshop to resize and also FREE!

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win.../image-resizer

It is available through the Right-Click menu in Windows Explorer. And it takes all of about a second to resize a picture:

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Not only is it FREE it also does not contain any spyware or addware in the application like most "free" software does.



I prefer the following configuration which will create a resized image named "[original image name] - Large.jpg"
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Even with resizing and rotating pictures on my workstation they still don't post properly on sawmillcreek a good percentage of the time.

[John K Jordan]

If you are not a Photoshop user using Photoshop just to resize pictures is a bit of overkill

I’m a hardcore Photoshop user, used it for decades in my work. These days I can’t justify the subscription fee for the latest versions so I bought Photoshop Elements, inexpensive, has most of the functionality, does everything I want.

There are also free online utilities that resize and compress images. One wood forum recommended https://picresize.com/, quick and simple.

JKJ

[Tom Bender]

So if we rout our pics thru a server at 0 lat, 0 longitude will they become unhinged and just spin down the toilet, and which way will they spin?

[John K Jordan]

I think you missed the original point of my post. If you are a Mac OS X and iPhone user, regardless of how your phone is positioned (any of 4 possible orientations) the pic always looks correct on you Mac...

I was offering a possible fix that may be helpful to someone.

JKJ

[Larry Frank]

This same problem shows up on multiple forums and happens with iPhones more frequently.

[Lee Schierer]

I think you missed the original point of my post. If you are a Mac OS X and iPhone user, regardless of how your phone is positioned (any of 4 possible orientations) the pic always looks correct on you Mac using any Apple software: Preview iPhoto, Photos, and Aperture).

Even an I-phone has a top and if you take your photos with the top of the phone up, SMC won't rotate them.

[mark mcfarlane]

Even an I-phone has a top and if you take your photos with the top of the phone up, SMC won't rotate them.

Thanks Lee. That's not my experience. Here's an iPhone 5 photo, shot in (vertical) portrait mode, with the power button and image sensor at the top of the phone. It is rotated by SMC 90 CCW.

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For landscape photos, I need to put the volume buttons, which control the 'shutter release', on the bottom of the phone to get it to display in SMC correctly. To me, 'shutter release on the bottom of the camera' is 'upside down'.

[Lee Schierer]

For landscape photos, I need to put the volume buttons, which control the 'shutter release', on the bottom of the phone to get it to display in SMC correctly. To me, 'shutter release on the bottom of the camera' is 'upside down'.

So now you know where the top of the phone is. All you need to do is move to Australia and your phone will be right side up...