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    Brian that is one serious reminder to watch auto-run tools!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Page View Post
    Brian, +1 one the wow!
    Did you notify Sears and what was their response?
    You bet I did. There's a long story to it.

    The somewhat shortened version is that the next day I called their 1-800 number. The operators there told me they were sorry, but Craftsman power tools only have 1 year warranties. So they couldn't do anything for me.

    I wasn't too happy with that response . So I crafted a nicely worded, professional email expressing my disappointment in the product and the operators unwillingness to help me. I then sent this email, with pictures to everyone I could think of . . . which included the Sears product safety division, the Sears CEO, Devillbis (the company that actually made the compressor), and Intertek (the company that gives the ETL ratings/listings).

    I was contacted almost immediately by lawyers from Sears and Devillbis. I arranged through the Sears lawyers to drop the compressor off at a local Sears and was told they would take care of me. And to their credit they did. I was able to upgrade to an oiled version, worth much more than my original compressor.

    Interestingly, a week later the Devillbis lawyers called and wanted to get the compressor for testing. I told them they would have to talk to the Sears lawyers.

    Then about a month later, I got a call from Intertek letting me know that they were opening an investigation and they wanted more details.

    And even more strange . . . I actually just got a call from a woman last week, from the Consumer Product Safety Commission, saying she too was looking into it.

    I don't think they've come to any conclusion on whether to recall this compressor or not.

    Anyway, I was eventually happy (after I "ruffled their feathers" a bit ), and now have a nice, quiet oiled compressor . . . that I leave unplugged!

    -Brian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian D Anderson View Post
    I'll echo what others have said and don't leave the compressor on . . . or plugged in for that matter.

    A year (and 3 days) ago, I was awoken by my smoke detector in my basement at about 11:30pm. I came down and found my compressor on fire.

    I was lucky on many counts. No damage to the house, wife and kid were away for the weekend.

    I used to leave it plugged in and in the Auto (on) position. It only ever ran when I used it . . . otherwise it never leaked, so I was ok with leaving it in the Auto position. Needless to say I don't do that anymore.

    And definitely don't show your wife these pictures.

    -Brian
    UP until a couple months ago, we always unplugged our sears craftsman 25 gal compressor. I have owned it for 12-13 years. HOwever, we got lazy. This compressor is at my store. I am going to unplug it right now.

    thanks for the reminder.
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    Makes me shudder to think what could have happened

    Thanks all for the kind words.

    I consider myself quite blessed, I never, and mean never, go into the shop before work. And I work a 12 hour day on wensdays. Had I not checked the shop that compessor would have been ruinning for over 20 hours or until.... I still dont know why I went in there yesterday, as I was even running late to my real job.

    After a long time of sticking up for HF I think I might be done with them (except for their clamps and few smaller items). This compressor is less than three months old. Could take it back, but I dont think I"d take a new one as a gift now.

    As a relative newbie I thought it ok to leave the compessor on auto all the time. Time for a new one; any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louie Ballis View Post
    Time for a new one; any suggestions?
    ingersoll rand. pricey but worth it.
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    Brian, that's quite a story. I'm glad that Sears took care of you.

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    I'd throw it away, but I'd keep the motor. You never know when a motor can come in handy for other projects.

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    I'd toss the HF compressor and cut my losses. Glad to hear this wasn't a bigger disaster for you and yours.

    You know, I never gave this a thought until now. I have a 30 gallon (I think it is 30) super-loud oilless Craftsman in my garage and I have air lines piped to the basement shop. It stays on all the time and periodically refills. Or at least it did...Going to turn it off today.

    I'm thinking that I'll install a 20A switched receptacle in the garage and will install the switch by the door to the shop so I remember to turn it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Wingert View Post
    I'd toss the HF compressor and cut my losses. Glad to hear this wasn't a bigger disaster for you and yours.

    You know, I never gave this a thought until now. I have a 30 gallon (I think it is 30) super-loud oilless Craftsman in my garage and I have air lines piped to the basement shop. It stays on all the time and periodically refills. Or at least it did...Going to turn it off today.

    I'm thinking that I'll install a 20A switched receptacle in the garage and will install the switch by the door to the shop so I remember to turn it off.
    Something that just came to mind- those motion sensing switches. Not sure what the amp rating is on them, but what if they only supplied power when you were working in the shop? Nearly idiot-proof and IIRC you can set them from 5min-1hr depending on the model. I wouldn't use on for my shop lights for obvious reasons, but for other things like compressor or air cleaner, they could be a good idea. How many times have people gone to work in the shop, thought it was a bit dusty and realized the air cleaner was off?

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    This is a good thread..

    I often hear the compressor that operates my sander cycle on at 11:00 PM.. It reminds me to go out and turn it off. Its just caused by a slow leak in the sander, but just the same..

    I think a receptacle that is tied to the light switch would be a good idea.. if the lights are off, no power to the compressor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Fisher View Post
    This is a good thread..

    I often hear the compressor that operates my sander cycle on at 11:00 PM.. It reminds me to go out and turn it off. Its just caused by a slow leak in the sander, but just the same..

    I think a receptacle that is tied to the light switch would be a good idea.. if the lights are off, no power to the compressor.
    I think a switch next to the lights might be good, but if my compressor decides to cycle up while I'm on the TS and somehow pops my lights, not good. Not saying it would ever happen, but there is a reason my shop lights aren't even on the same panel as the rest of my shop circuits. Even if I somehow overload my shop supply and pop that breaker, I still have lights.

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    Brian I don't know what part of the story is more compelling, before or after the fireworks!

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    I was helping a friend rewire his shop. He has a big old honking 80 gallon compressor that he used to leave on all the time. He claimed his system was so tight that the compressor hardly ever cycled.

    I convinced him to go out and buy a $25 relay. We wired the relay coil to one of his overhead light circuits and the relay contacts to the dedicated 220V circuit for his compressor.

    Guess what happens every morning when he goes into the shop and turns on the lights? Yep, his compressor starts up and runs for a good couple of minutes. Obviously his air system wasn't as tight as he thought.

    IMHO leaving your compressor in the auto mode is a safety and energy saving issue. Now all I need to do is to do the same thing in my shop. But until I do, I turn my compressor off when I leave the shop.
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    Very good idea Steve.

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    Glad you and your family are Ok.

    1- I always drain the compressor if I am not going to use it for a couple of days, turn off and unplug it.

    2- I never leave any power tool ON when leaving the shop.
    In fact I turn OFF all the breakers of my shop whenever I leave the shop.
    It's better to be safe than sorry.

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