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Thread: Alternatives to T-nuts and what's a good graphic to show types of nuts?

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    Alternatives to T-nuts and what's a good graphic to show types of nuts?

    I'm assembling a "box" for my equipment trailer to ease transport of household items.

    This pic shows the rails I put up to aid in transporting firewood, mulch (with a liner), gravel etc.
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    The 2x6 horizontals were put based on the max load of stuff I could carry. However, I need to remove all to load one of my tractors.
    m4700-trailer1.jpg

    I've now put 4' high plywood sides and a roof on, all wood is either plywood or 2x4's. My primary fasteners are 3/8" hex bolts and flat U bolts of varying lengths. One of the main features I was focusing on (besides safety and rigidity) was ability to assemble/disassemble it by myself with minimum tools. With a battery powered drill spinning off all the nuts is relatively quick and easy until I put the top on.

    The drawback is that on the hex bolts I've got to "clamp" the nut on one side to bolt/unbolt while ratcheting the other end . When assembling the sides that means when it is enclosed there are a lot of trips to 1) put the bolt thru the hole and clamp visegrips on the head 2) go inside put on washer and bolt, tighten 3) Repeat

    This requires a lot of trips in/out and up/down the ramp (or a lot of vice grips to hold the bolt head outside. Without clamping one side of the fastener they will just spin. So I'm going to try T-nuts embedded inside so I can just put the bolt in and screw it in.

    Which brings me here - is there an alternative to T-nuts?
    And - can people recommend a good reference graphic to show ALL different type of nuts similar to pages like http://www.zoro.com/s/?c=4388&cn=Nuts&page=2 , or http://www.mcmaster.com/#nuts/=u6dxvr , so I can print a graphic for my shop, and provide a link.

    thanks
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    Propellor Tee nuts will jam in their holes. That will buy you a one-sided assembly.

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    Chris Schwarz recently went through a lot of hardware options in a quest for something more robust than T-nuts for a knock-down workbench. He finally settled on McMaster-Carr 11445T1, as described here: http://blog.lostartpress.com/2014/08...e-swap-i-hope/

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat warner View Post
    Propellor Tee nuts will jam in their holes. That will buy you a one-sided assembly.
    Thanks, I had not run across propeller tee nuts before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Schwabacher View Post
    Chris Schwarz recently went through a lot of hardware options in a quest for something more robust than T-nuts for a knock-down workbench. He finally settled on McMaster-Carr 11445T1, as described here: http://blog.lostartpress.com/2014/08...e-swap-i-hope/
    Those look REAL heavy duty!

    It seems the propellers are more used for hardwood so they don't split. I'll keep those mounting plates in mind. But my $15 bag of 3/8 T-nuts arrived today and I used about 10 of them immediately in pine 2x4's. They look like the same thing Lowes (http://www.lowes.com/pd_454383-37672...nut&facetInfo=) wants $72 for.

    It sped up my assembly/dis-assembly by about a factor of 5.
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    Propeller nuts are great in hardwood, MDF, and plywood. Tee nuts are better in softwood.

    Around here, I just go to the local fastener supply or a real hardware store, which is now called an industrial supply store because consumers go to Lowes or HD.

    3/8x16 is a standard for rock climbing walls so available cheap everywhere:
    http://www.amazon.com/100-T-nuts-for...ywords=tee+nut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg R Bradley View Post
    Propeller nuts are great in hardwood, MDF, and plywood. Tee nuts are better in softwood.

    Around here, I just go to the local fastener supply or a real hardware store, which is now called an industrial supply store because consumers go to Lowes or HD.

    3/8x16 is a standard for rock climbing walls so available cheap everywhere:
    http://www.amazon.com/100-T-nuts-for...ywords=tee+nut
    Yes, that's what I bought, and once again I had standardized on a 3/8 x 16 size months before I found I needed to be compatible with rock climbing, serendipity.

    I've got about 40 more bolts I might take the nuts off and install Tee nuts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Wilson50 View Post
    I've tried those but they were more expensive and can rip out from softwood/plywood installs.
    Setting up a workshop, from standing tree to bookshelves

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